This is Infertility is a bi-weekly podcast where we fuse narrative storytelling with experience and science to give you a new perspective on what it’s really like to go through a family building journey. Each episode dives into the emotional, physical, and financial burdens carried by those who experience infertility on their path to parenthood. Be it IVF, IUI, egg freezing, surrogacy, adoption, etc., the path is never the same and it can be long, painful, and lonely. It’s our mission to give those struggling a platform to be heard, a community connection, and an opportunity to raise awareness of the 1 in 6 who, for many reasons, struggle with infertility.
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Episode 113: Bringing Joy to Others: POV of a Gestational Surrogate and Egg Donor

One thing always leads to another, and in Eloise’s case, her actions illuminated a path of happiness and health for one family after another. Eloise Drain, founder of Family Inceptions and Reproductive Advocates for Multiethnic Professionals (RAMP), started by donating her kidney to her cousin, and eventually Eloise found herself as a gestational carrier for many grateful couples over the years.  

In this episode, Eloise talks about the process of being an egg donor and gestational carrier, as well as the ups and downs that come with it. During her journey, Eloise noticed the discrepancies in healthcare for women of color when she was told that “black women don’t have fertility issues.” This influenced her to create Family Inceptions, an agency that seeks out surrogates or egg donors that carefully places them with others who are a perfect match for them, as well as RAMP, an agency designed to prioritize minorities in their family building journey.  

Guest: Eloise Drain, Family Inceptions, Reproductive Advocates for Multiethnic Professionals

Host: Dan Bulger 

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Here are some highlights from this episode: 

Tackling the myth surrounding infertility:
5:31 – 6:02 

Dan Bulger: The myth is black women don’t experience infertility. And you know what, let’s go a little bit stronger than that; the myth that black women don’t experience infertility is simply not true. It’s false. Black women, White women, Asian, Hispanic, all kinds of women can experience infertility. That’s not enough because in fact, all kinds of people can experience infertility. It’s a male issue as well. There wasn’t as much conversation about this in 1999. But hopefully now 20 plus years later, everyone understands this much better. 

The process of becoming an egg donor:
8:52 – 9:55 

Eloise Drain: For a woman to become an egg donor, she must be willing to go through a lot of different testing and hormone injections. There are risks being the donor and it’s not as simple as a man going through and donating. It’s a big deal and it’s a long process. When somebody decides to become an egg donor, they are giving a part of their DNA to another human being, and they need to be comfortable with knowing that one day, potentially, there could be another human out there with the same DNA that they have.  

Dan Bulger


Dan Bulger
Producer at Progyny

Dan has been in the healthcare industry for the last six years as a multimedia content producer. Better known as ‘Video Dan’ he as interviewed numerous doctors, patients and other experts in the world of fertility. He’s also the producer for this podcast, This is Infertility. On a personal note Dan’s parents started fostering kids when he was four years old, and he considers himself a proud older brother to over 100 foster children.



Eloise Drain
Family Inceptions, Reproductive Association of Minority Professionals

Eloise Drane is the founder of Family Inceptions, a full-service surrogacy and egg donation agency, Surrogacy Roadmap, a course for intended parents completing independent surrogacy and the hostess of Fertility Café Podcast. And recently she also launched RAMP – Reproductive Association of Minority Professionals.

She knows that compassion and grace are necessary ingredients for the delicate journey that egg donation and gestational surrogacy can be for all parties.

Eloise’s passion and unparalleled empathy blossomed from her own experience as an egg donor six times and a surrogate three times.

As a previous leader of several infertility support groups, Eloise understands the importance of empowerment and encouragement within the family creation process.

Eloise earned a Master’s in Business Administration from Keller Graduate School of Management.

When she isn’t guiding others in making family legacies, Eloise can be found fostering the relationships in her own family. Reading, traveling and spending quality time with her husband and children.


Social Media Platforms: Family Inceptions

Facebook: @FamilyInceptions

Twitter: @FamilyInception

Instagram: @FamilyInceptions


Social Media Platforms: Surrogacy Roadmap

Facebook: @surrogacyroadmap

Instagram: @surrogacyroadmap

Social Media Platforms: Fertility Cafe

Facebook: @fertilitycafe

Instagram: @fertilitycafe

Music From This Episode:

Title: Alpha Hydrae 

Artist: Keratine rust and a clear soul  


Title: Jahzzar 

Artist: Fabonacci 


Title: Lee Rosevere 

Artist: Everywhere 


Artist: Quizitive