This is Infertility

There is nothing more fundamental to life than the urge to continue it. But while it may be the most natural thing in the world, childbirth is far from the easiest and no two fertility journeys are the same. For that reason, we are breaking from the typical podcast form. Each episode is hosted by a different voice who brings their own unique point of view to the complex and ever-changing world of infertility. Our hosts are licensed clinical social workers, patient care advocates, clinical psychiatrists, reproductive endocrinologists, real fertility patients, and others who are, in one way or another, experts in the world of fertility. We fuse narrative storytelling with experience and science to give you a new perspective on what it’s really like to go through this journey.

Episode 16: Jason and Alvin: Building Equity in Equality

Jason Rudman and his husband Alvin utilized a gestational surrogate to start their family, and then, two years later, utilized another one to continue their family. Along the way, Jason used his voice to change his employer’s paternity leave policy and ended up helping more than just his immediate family. Today’s host is Salaia DaCruz, Sr. Account Manager at Progyny.

Guests: Jason Rudman

If you missed it, we released a few episodes on family building for same-sex couples:

Episode 5: Katie & Hilary: Changing the Plan

Episode 6: Benjie & Jimmy: Becoming Daddy and Papa

Episode 7: Family Building & Equality for Same Sex Couples

Episode 8: Lindsey & Chrissy: Better Benefits, Clearer Decisions

For more information, visit Progyny’s Podcast page

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Salaia Da Cruz, Senior Account Manager, Progyny.

Salaia has worked at Progyny for four years. She started her career as a Patient Care Advocate where she was able to assist members at each stage of their fertility journey. In her second year she managed the relationship for Progyny’s largest corporate account. In year three, Salaia joined the Account Management team where she currently works with large self-insured employer groups. Her commitment is to ensure the benefits teams she works with, and their members, understand and enjoy the Progyny family building experience. Salaia has spent her entire career working in the fertility space and is truly passionate about Progyny’s solution and how it is changing lives.


Jason Rudman, Senior Executive at Key Bank.

Jason who grew up in England, and Alvin McCray, who hails from Johnstown, Pennsylvania, met in 1998 in New York City. Twelve years later, and five years before the Supreme Court ruling on marriage equality, they tied the knot legally in Connecticut. Both looked forward to having children but wanted to have a biological connection. Surrogacy offered that opportunity.

Music From This Episode:

Artist: Dr. Turtle
Track: Always The Teasmade Never The Tease

Artist: Steve Combs
Track: A Vital Piece of Music for All Your Soundtrack Needs

Artist: Jahzzar
Track: Curves